Darrell Brooks cross-examines the witness and asks “Who are you?”



The cross-examination was controversial on Monday as Waukesha marched for the murder of the accused Darrell Brooks attempted to trip a witness during his trial.

“Who is ‘you’?said Brooks, trying to suggest that Sean Backler misidentified him as an intruder. “Who are you‘?

Brooks, who is representing himself at trial, first fled after abusing his ex-girlfriend and then plowed into a red SUV during the Waukesha Christmas Parade on Nov. 21, 2021, prosecutors said. Authorities said he murdered six people: Jackson Sparks8, Tamara Durand52, Jane Kulich52, Leanna “Lee” Owen71, Virginia Sorenson79, and Wilhelm Hospital81.

Prosecutors use the testimony of Backler and others to establish Brooks’ actions fleeing the site of the tragedy. Backler testified that he worked around his yard on Central Avenue. His garage was open, he testified. He was aware of the parade but did not attend, he said. He testified that he went to check after hearing noise around the east side of the garage. He said he found a man there, namely Brooks.

The witness said he did not know the identity of this man at the time, but saw his mugshot in the Waukesha murder case the next morning and recognized him.

“I asked him what the fuck was he doing,” Backler said. Brooks was an intrusion, he said.

He said in direct examination that he talked to Brooks a bit. Brooks asked if Backler could call an Uber, according to testimony.

“I have to go home,” Brooks reportedly said. Backler refused and told her to leave her court. Brooks eventually complied with this, although he repeatedly requested an Uber, according to testimony.

Shown to court surveillance footage, Backler identified Brooks as the intruder. He’s also repeatedly identified him in court – something Brooks has repeatedly challenged. Brooks suggested that Backler had the wrong height and weight description given to police during a non-emergency call.

“To the best of my knowledge, you were either black, Latino, or mixed race,” Backler said, as Brooks interrupted.

“Who is ‘you?'” Brooks said. “Who are you ?'”

Judge Jennifer Dorow told Brooks to let Backler answer one question before interrupting him with another.

Backler reiterated the description.

“So it would be fair to say you didn’t know that at the time?” said Brooks.

“I was giving a general description,” Backler said.

“So it would be fair to say you weren’t sure,” Brooks said.

“I was sure it was you,” Backler said.

“Who is ‘you?'” Brooks said.

“You,” Backler said. “I am looking at you.”

“And how did you come to this conclusion? The ‘you?’ conclusion?” said Brooks.

Backler pointed his finger at Brooks. “I am looking at you.”

“How did you come to this conclusion?” said Brooks.

Backler asked him to rephrase the question.

“You say you gave a description on the non-emergency phone line, don’t you?” said Brooks.

“It was on a non-emergency line,” Backler said.

“So it would be fair to say that at that time you didn’t have a name or who the person in your backyard was,” Brooks said. “Would it be fair to say it?”

“I had no idea who you were,” Backler said.

“So how can you say ‘you’ if you had no idea,” Brooks said.

“I’m looking at you,” Backler said. “You’re the guy.”

“And how did you come to this conclusion? said Brooks.

“You and I were standing in the same air looking at each other,” Backler said.

“So is it possible you saw something on the news?” said Brooks.

“No, I had no idea who you were,” Backler said.

“Interesting,” said Brooks.

This approach informed much of the cross-examination.

“I’m looking into your eyes right now,” Backler said. “You’re the guy I talk about when I talk about ‘You’.”

“What would you prefer me to call you?” Backler later said during questioning. “Because you’re not going by Darrell Brooks.”

Brooks, who described himself as a “sovereign citizen” and later a “sovereign”, repeatedly objected to having his name called in court and once filed a subpoena that ” the State of Wisconsin” testifies. On Monday, he asked Backler about his subpoena and who he named as a plaintiff in that lawsuit. Backler said he believed it was the city of Waukesha or the state of Wisconsin.

“Would it be fair to say it’s not a living, breathing human being?” said Brooks.

Waukesha County District Attorney Suzanne Opper successfully objected on relevance.

“Do you know that only a living, breathing human being can make a claim?” Brooks said, repeating his question before Judge Dorow told him to move on.

So-called sovereign citizens claim that the government has no real legal hold over them because they are the “sovereign”. The Court did not completely go off the rails during the trial. It’s more stable than the recent pre-trial and jury selection period, when Dorow kicked Brooks out of court early and often. The accused even took off his shirt at one point.

Brooks eventually issued an apology in court, but the friction continues, with him making audible comments and other gestures about Dorow’s rulings in court.

“Certainly not argumentative,” Brooks said in court Monday.

Other witnesses on Monday revealed stories similar to Backler’s. Brooks approached them while looking for an Uber ride, they said. The police arrested him at the witness’s home Daniel Cavalier.

[Screenshot via Law&Crime Network]

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